<p>14:9 <i>Jesus said to him: Philip, have I been with you such a long time, and still you do not truly know me? He that has seen me has seen the Father. How do you ask: Show us the Father?</i>- Although the Lord speaks quite toughly to them at this point, as noted on :7, He is totally positive about them in talking with the Father about them (17:7,8). They did not truly know Him nor the Father, and yet He uses just that same Greek word in telling the Father that His men did &ldquo;know&rdquo; Him and His word (Jn. 17:7,8,25). He had faith and hope in their future maturity- they didn&rsquo;t then &ldquo;know&rdquo;, but they did in the future (Jn. 12:16; 13:7). The Lord had hope that &ldquo;In that day you shall know&rdquo; (Jn. 14:20). For there was no absolute guarantee that the eleven would come to &ldquo;know&rdquo; Him and His word, seeing they had freewill- Jesus had faith they would, and He expressed that faith and Hope to the Father so positively. For to love someone is to impute things to them which we only hope for. That is the simple basis of the 'imputed righteousness' of which Paul writes in Romans.</p>