<p>2:12 <em>But these, as creatures without reason- </em>&quot;Without reason&quot; is <em>a-logos</em>, without the <em>logos</em> of God's word. The parallel in Jude 10 says that they relied upon their natural knowledge and perception, rather than God's word.</p><p><em>Born mere animals to be taken and destroyed- </em>The idea is that they were predestined to this destruction; and yet it was because they acted in the way they did of their own choice. There is a word play on the word &quot;destroyed&quot;, which carries the idea of 'corruption'. Their final corruption in condemnation is because of their own corruption. Hence &quot;in their destroying 'corruption' they shall be destroyed / corrupted&quot;.</p><p><em>Speak reproachfully in matters of which they are ignorant; they shall in their destroying surely be destroyed</em>- They were living out their own condemnation; human behaviour is of itself our judgment. Truly &quot;we make the answer now&quot; to the issues of the future day of judgment.</p>