<p>17:7 <i>Now they know that all things, whatever You have given me, are from You</i>- As noted on :6, there was much they did not know / understand / believe, which is the sense of 'knowing' in John. The Lord imputed more understanding and faith to them than they really had. The Last Supper discourse showed clearly enough that they didn't understand or &quot;know&quot; (Jn. 14:7,9; 16:5,18). Yet here, He uses the perfect tense of the verb 'to know' when He says &quot;Now they have come to know...&quot; . It's almost as if He increasingly imputed things to them which were not yet so, as increasingly He faced up to the reality and implications of His death for them.&nbsp;The disciples didn&rsquo;t &ldquo;know&rdquo; the things the Lord spoke to them about His origin and purpose- they only &ldquo;knew&rdquo; them after the resurrection (Lk. 18:34; Jn. 10:6; 12:16; 13:7). Jn. 14:7,9 is plain: &ldquo;If you had known me&hellip; yet have you not known me&rdquo;, He tells the disciples. And yet He uses just that same Greek word in telling the Father that His men did &ldquo;know&rdquo; Him and His word (Jn. 17:7,8,25). He had faith and hope in their future maturity- they didn&rsquo;t then &ldquo;know&rdquo;, but they did in the future (Jn. 12:16; 13:7). The Lord had hope that &ldquo;In that day you shall know&rdquo; (Jn. 14:20). For there was no absolute guarantee that the eleven would come to &ldquo;know&rdquo; Him and His word, seeing they had freewill- Jesus had faith they would, and He expressed that faith and Hope to the Father so positively.</p><p>The things given the Son were the disciples (:6). Perhaps the sense is that they now realized and believed that they had been given to the Son by the Father, and were therefore 'with' the Father.</p>