<p>7:12 <i>And there was much murmuring among the crowds concerning him. Some said: He is a good man. Others said: Not so. He deceives the people</i>- The miracles done were clear enough, but still some thought He was a deceiver. Again John is making the point that miracles do not play a great role in eliciting faith. And this was a necessary point to be made, seeing John was writing at the time when the miraculous gifts were being withdrawn and phased out.</p>